A VERY GOOD READ
Where Have All the Leaders Gone?
By Lee Iacocca with Catherine Whitney




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Had Enough?

Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder. We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, "Stay the course."

Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America, not the damned Titanic. I'll give you a sound bite: Throw the bums out!

You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore. The President of the United States is given a free pass to ignore the Constitution, tap our phones, and lead us to war on a pack of lies. Congress responds to record deficits by passing a huge tax cut for the wealthy (thanks, but I don't need it). The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs. While we're fiddling in Iraq, the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving pom-poms instead of asking hard questions. That's not the promise of America my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I've had enough. How about you?

I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have.

My friends tell me to calm down. They say, "Lee, you're eighty-two years old. Leave the rage to the young people." I'd love to—as soon as I can pry them away from their iPods for five seconds and get them to pay attention. I'm going to speak up because it's my patriotic duty. I think people will listen to me. They say I have a reputation as a straight shooter. So I'll tell you how I see it, and it's not pretty, but at least it's real. I'm hoping to strike a nerve in those young folks who say they don't vote because they don't trust politicians to represent their interests. Hey, America, wake up. These guys work for us.

Who Are These Guys, Anyway?

Why are we in this mess? How did we end up with this crowd in Washington? Well, we voted for them—or at least some of us did. But I'll tell you what we didn't do. We didn't agree to suspend the Constitution. We didn't agree to stop asking questions or demanding answers. Some of us are sick and tired of people who call free speech treason. Where I come from that's a dictatorship, not a democracy.

And don't tell me it's all the fault of right-wing Republicans or liberal Democrats. That's an intellectually lazy argument, and it's part of the reason we're in this stew. We're not just a nation of factions. We're a people. We share common principles and ideals. And we rise and fall together.

Where are the voices of leaders who can inspire us to action and make us stand taller? What happened to the strong and resolute party of Lincoln? What happened to the courageous, populist party of FDR and Truman? There was a time in this country when the voices of great leaders lifted us up and made us want to do better. Where have all the leaders gone?

The Test of a Leader

I've never been Commander in Chief, but I've been a CEO. I understand a few things about leadership at the top. I've figured out nine points—not ten (I don't want people accusing me of thinking I'm Moses). I call them the "Nine Cs of Leadership." They're not fancy or complicated. Just clear, obvious qualities that every true leader should have. We should look at how the current administration stacks up. Like it or not, this crew is going to be around until January 2009. Maybe we can learn something before we go to the polls in 2008. Then let's be sure we use the leadership test to screen the candidates who say they want to run the country. It's up to us to choose wisely.

So, here's my C list:

A leader has to show CURIOSITY. He has to listen to people outside of the "Yes, sir" crowd in his inner circle. He has to read voraciously, because the world is a big, complicated place. George W. Bush brags about never reading a newspaper. "I just scan the headlines," he says. Am I hearing this right? He's the President of the United States and he never reads a newspaper? Thomas Jefferson once said, "Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate for a moment to prefer the latter." Bush disagrees. As long as he gets his daily hour in the gym, with Fox News piped through the sound system, he's ready to go.

If a leader never steps outside his comfort zone to hear different ideas, he grows stale. If he doesn't put his beliefs to the test, how does he know he's right? The inability to listen is a form of arrogance. It means either you think you already know it all, or you just don't care. Before the 2006 election, George Bush made a big point of saying he didn't listen to the polls. Yeah, that's what they all say when the polls stink. But maybe he should have listened, because 70 percent of the people were saying he was on the wrong track. It took a "thumping" on election day to wake him up, but even then you got the feeling he wasn't listening so much as he was calculating how to do a better job of convincing everyone he was right.

A leader has to be CREATIVE, go out on a limb, be willing to try something different. You know, think outside the box. George Bush prides himself on never changing, even as the world around him is spinning out of control. God forbid someone should accuse him of flip-flopping. There's a disturbingly messianic fervor to his certainty. Senator Joe Biden recalled a conversation he had with Bush a few months after our troops marched into Baghdad. Joe was in the Oval Office outlining his concerns to the President—the explosive mix of Shiite and Sunni, the disbanded Iraqi army, the problems securing the oil fields. "The President was serene," Joe recalled. "He told me he was sure that we were on the right course and that all would be well. 'Mr. President,' I finally said, 'how can you be so sure when you don't yet know all the facts?'" Bush then reached over and put a steadying hand on Joe's shoulder. "My instincts," he said. "My instincts." Joe was flabbergasted. He told Bush, "Mr. President, your instincts aren't good enough." Joe Biden sure didn't think the matter was settled. And, as we all know now, it wasn't.

Leadership is all about managing change—whether you're leading a company or leading a country. Things change, and you get creative. You adapt. Maybe Bush was absent the day they covered that at Harvard Business School.

A leader has to COMMUNICATE. I'm not talking about running off at the mouth or spouting sound bites. I'm talking about facing reality and telling the truth. Nobody in the current administration seems to know how to talk straight anymore. Instead, they spend most of their time trying to convince us that things are not really as bad as they seem. I don't know if it's denial or dishonesty, but it can start to drive you crazy after a while. Communication has to start with telling the truth, even when it's painful. The war in Iraq has been, among other things, a grand failure of communication. Bush is like the boy who didn't cry wolf when the wolf was at the door. After years of being told that all is well, even as the casualties and chaos mount, we've stopped listening to him.

A leader has to be a person of CHARACTER. That means knowing the difference between right and wrong and having the guts to do the right thing. Abraham Lincoln once said, "If you want to test a man's character, give him power." George Bush has a lot of power. What does it say about his character? Bush has shown a willingness to take bold action on the world stage because he has the power, but he shows little regard for the grievous consequences. He has sent our troops (not to mention hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens) to their deaths—for what? To build our oil reserves? To avenge his daddy because Saddam Hussein once tried to have him killed? To show his daddy he's tougher? The motivations behind the war in Iraq are questionable, and the execution of the war has been a disaster. A man of character does not ask a single soldier to die for a failed policy.

A leader must have COURAGE. I'm talking about balls. (That even goes for female leaders.) Swagger isn't courage. Tough talk isn't courage. George Bush comes from a blue-blooded Connecticut family, but he likes to talk like a cowboy. You know, My gun is bigger than your gun. Courage in the twenty-first century doesn't mean posturing and bravado. Courage is a commitment to sit down at the negotiating table and talk.

If you're a politician, courage means taking a position even when you know it will cost you votes. Bush can't even make a public appearance unless the audience has been handpicked and sanitized. He did a series of so-called town hall meetings last year, in auditoriums packed with his most devoted fans. The questions were all softballs.

To be a leader you've got to have CONVICTION—a fire in your belly. You've got to have passion. You've got to really want to get something done. How do you measure fire in the belly? Bush has set the all-time record for number of vacation days taken by a U.S. President—four hundred and counting. He'd rather clear brush on his ranch than immerse himself in the business of governing. He even told an interviewer that the high point of his presidency so far was catching a seven-and-a-half-pound perch in his hand-stocked lake.

It's no better on Capitol Hill. Congress was in session only ninety-seven days in 2006. That's eleven days less than the record set in 1948, when President Harry Truman coined the term do-nothing Congress. Most people would expect to be fired if they worked so little and had nothing to show for it. But Congress managed to find the time to vote itself a raise. Now, that's not leadership.

A leader should have CHARISMA. I'm not talking about being flashy. Charisma is the quality that makes people want to follow you. It's the ability to inspire. People follow a leader because they trust him. That's my definition of charisma. Maybe George Bush is a great guy to hang out with at a barbecue or a ball game. But put him at a global summit where the future of our planet is at stake, and he doesn't look very presidential. Those frat-boy pranks and the kidding around he enjoys so much don't go over that well with world leaders. Just ask German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who received an unwelcome shoulder massage from our President at a G-8 Summit. When he came up behind her and started squeezing, I thought she was going to go right through the roof.

A leader has to be COMPETENT. That seems obvious, doesn't it? You've got to know what you're doing. More important than that, you've got to surround yourself with people who know what they're doing. Bush brags about being our first MBA President. Does that make him competent? Well, let's see. Thanks to our first MBA President, we've got the largest deficit in history, Social Security is on life support, and we've run up a half-a-trillion-dollar price tag (so far) in Iraq. And that's just for starters. A leader has to be a problem solver, and the biggest problems we face as a nation seem to be on the back burner.

You can't be a leader if you don't have COMMON SENSE. I call this Charlie Beacham's rule. When I was a young guy just starting out in the car business, one of my first jobs was as Ford's zone manager in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. My boss was a guy named Charlie Beacham, who was the East Coast regional manager. Charlie was a big Southerner, with a warm drawl, a huge smile, and a core of steel. Charlie used to tell me, "Remember, Lee, the only thing you've got going for you as a human being is your ability to reason and your common sense. If you don't know a dip of horseshit from a dip of vanilla ice cream, you'll never make it." George Bush doesn't have common sense. He just has a lot of sound bites. You know—Mr.they'll-welcome-us-as-liberators-no-child-... Bush.

Former President Bill Clinton once said, "I grew up in an alcoholic home. I spent half my childhood trying to get into the reality-based world—and I like it here."

I think our current President should visit the real world once in a while.

The Biggest C is Crisis

Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It's easy to sit there with your feet up on the desk and talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off to war when you've never seen a battlefield yourself. It's another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down.

On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. Where was George Bush? He was reading a story about a pet goat to kids in Florida when he heard about the attacks. He kept sitting there for twenty minutes with a baffled look on his face. It's all on tape. You can see it for yourself. Then, instead of taking the quickest route back to Washington and immediately going on the air to reassure the panicked people of this country, he decided it wasn't safe to return to the White House. He basically went into hiding for the day—and he told Vice President Dick Cheney to stay put in his bunker. We were all frozen in front of our TVs, scared out of our wits, waiting for our leaders to tell us that we were going to be okay, and there was nobody home. It took Bush a couple of days to get his bearings and devise the right photo op at Ground Zero.

That was George Bush's moment of truth, and he was paralyzed. And what did he do when he'd regained his composure? He led us down the road to Iraq—a road his own father had considered disastrous when he was President. But Bush didn't listen to Daddy. He listened to a higher father. He prides himself on being faith based, not reality based. If that doesn't scare the crap out of you, I don't know what will.

A Hell of a Mess

So here's where we stand. We're immersed in a bloody war with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving. We're running the biggest deficit in the history of the country. We're losing the manufacturing edge to Asia, while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs. Gas prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in power has a coherent energy policy. Our schools are in trouble. Our borders are like sieves. The middle class is being squeezed every which way. These are times that cry out for leadership.

But when you look around, you've got to ask: "Where have all the leaders gone?" Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, competence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point.

Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo? We've spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened.

Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of Hurricane Katrina. Congress has yet to spend a single day evaluating the response to the hurricane, or demanding accountability for the decisions that were made in the crucial hours after the storm. Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping it doesn't happen again. Now, that's just crazy. Storms happen. Deal with it. Make a plan. Figure out what you're going to do the next time.

Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when "the Big Three" referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen—and more important, what are we going to do about it?

Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debt, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry.

I have news for the gang in Congress. We didn't elect you to sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent while our democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is being replaced with mediocrity. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bobblehead on Fox News will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don't you guys show some spine for a change?

Had Enough?

Hey, I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I'm trying to light a fire. I'm speaking out because I have hope. I believe in America. In my lifetime I've had the privilege of living through some of America's greatest moments. I've also experienced some of our worst crises—the Great Depression, World War II, the Korean War, the Kennedy assassination, the Vietnam War, the 1970s oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years culminating with 9/11. If I've learned one thing, it's this: You don't get anywhere by standing on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take action. Whether it's building a better car or building a better future for our children, we all have a role to play. That's the challenge I'm raising in this book. It's a call to action for people who, like me, believe in America. It's not too late, but it's getting pretty close. So let's shake off the horseshit and go to work. Let's tell 'em all we've had enough.

No way you read that whole thing

I read through it. My take on it is pretty much what I've expressed in previous "controversial" posts.

Everything that Iococca is saying is legit and true for the most part; it's just that the issues he brings up are only symptomatic
of the root cause.

And that cause is—I'll say this as succinctly as possible—that our "appointed" leaders are no more in-charge of what is happening in the world and how the the country responds to whatever happens than either you or I.

The foundation of representative republican government—not to be confused with "democracy"—is fast becoming a conceptual anachronism.

What makes you say that Jenn?

Paul a lot of times quptes get attributed to celebrities who say stuff 'similar' to what the quote is or seem like they would-

I think Robin Williams had one out there about solving illegal immigration

More treachery from Milhouse!

Snopes says it's true.

snopes.com/politics/soapbox/i...

I'm just a skeptic I guess.

PAUL GET ON THE SNOPES

ummm... what are you upset about...?

The bottom line is: It doesn't matter if it was Lee Iacocca, John Lee Hooker, Sarah Lee, Bruce Lee or Lee Majors...

Someone being "famous" doesn't legitimize the sentiments any more or less - the fact is: *I* agree with the sentiments 100% regardless of the origin.

The fact that it is someone who most people MIGHT recognize a name means SOMETHING to some people - but not me. I'd agree with all of it if it were found-out that it was written by Ted Kazinsky or however the $&%# you spell it.

:o)

Of course the irony being, Lee's former company Chrysler was smack dab in the middle of the first wave of the beginning of the Big Business Bail Out by Government debate. A lot of people really felt government was acting, in just the manner Lee is accusing the present government of behaving, but if I remember correctly, the Chrysler bail out actually worked out, and jobs were saved, and Chrysler repaid the gov. loans.

(keep in mind, I'm going from memory, so I could have it all wrong)

If he was such a great leader to be giving lessons, why the hell did Chrysler need a bail out?!?!

Well - we disagree there. The rebates did *absolutely nothing* to stimulate the economy as they hoped.

That money did very-little to help those in financial trouble - it HELPED, but it didn't become a lasting benefit for anyone.

I mean, why NOT give the money back to us, right...? I mean our roads and bridges are in top-notch condition, our schools and education system are flawless and don't need any help, we are not in any sort of fiscal deficit right now and... oh... wait... I mean the EXACT OPPOSITE...!!! :o)

I know, I know... some people like the rebates - but I think it was a colossal mistake - as it was the FIRST time. It's just a pacifier... a distraction...

But hey, who the #&$^ am I to know one way or the other - I'm a drummer. :o)

I used the money to buy weed so the potholes wouldn't bother me

Sorry

pun is not the right word... I am a f*cking moron.

No one knows yet how much the tax rebates helped the economy. It's too soon to tell. But if you think that money would have been spent on infrastructure, by the Federal government, I think you're mistaken. Except for things like "The Big Dig" (great success that IT was) roads etc. is a more local thing. (I think)

And keep in mind, you still have time to send yours back to whichever department handles whatever repairs you feel need to be done.

Scott my point is our tax dollars, while they are intended for fixing the roads and such, the money more often than not goes for something really f*cking stupid that I would never agree to pay for if you asked me for the money

The big dig was good

lot of CAT machines sitting around the city taking up space there

My company could use another big dig

right now we're in the sh*tter

I love that Lee is so big on reading newspapers. Showing his age big time. Print is dead.

Newspapers are losing money like crazy because only old people, with very open schedules read them any more.

The newspapers are just shills for whichever side of the political aisle they support.

Lee wants the President to read the news in Today's papers that the President was probably briefed on Yesterday, or last week.

Well - I know what you're saying... and you're right - roads and bridges are NOT a priority... and there are so many flippin' things that SHOULD be a priority right now in this country that aren't...

I just feel that the rebates were meant to pacify us - to take our minds off of how shitty things are - and if it works for some...? GREAT...! But to try to pass it off as something that is to "help" the economy was BS - and yes, you CAN see the results. It has been months and there was no, zero, zilch, zip, nada effect on our economy - nor is there any indication of any upward swing - by this time, any gains are due to OTHER influences - not those checks.

No, just the political part.......

sharp

<--- will bring the coffee but I ain't grabbin' no shovel... I'll make sure the trench is straight and direct traffic around youz-guyz.

Okay jerks! I'm outta here for the night - Have a good one. Time to go home and shovel some groceries down my neck.

Buh-BYE.

Get us bagels too then, not the sh*tty kind either Paul likes sesame or whole wheat and I want a pumpernickel one

maybe some chives and cream cheese

no capers.

I HATE FKN CAPERS.

Back of boogaloo,
What you think i'm gonna do?
I got a flash right from the start

I'll have the sesame seed bagel with onion and chive cream cheese....

You're getting two-dozen assorted donuts, a "Box-o-Joe" and a fistfull of sugar packets and creamers.

And if I hear any complaining, you'll be breaking through the asphalt without the help of a Kango - just a mallet and a flat-bar - so I don't wanna hear it - and don't be late... 6:30 means 6-f*cking-THIRTY - NOT 6:35 or 6:40 ... you get here BEFORE 6:30 and mix your coffee on YOUR time, not mine.

I'm not gonna bust your ass all-day, but I wanna see all of you trying to be the first one to get here and the last to leave. Now, get outta here...

Captain Morgan hit the nail on the head regarding newspapers. I only read the Nashua Telegraph on occassion to get local news. Anything of importance, I scour the internet for legit sources.

I love these old coots who are so out of touch...maybe more so than the kids and their IPods.

In some cases this is true. I read newspapers all the time well as a lot of other things.

But obviously, we don't have to in order to get the news like you said.

But then does it really matter if we're gleaning information from an internet bulletin board instead of the Wall St. Journal?
I mean, an AP release is an AP release regardless of where it's taken from.

Referring to acquiring news from newspapers instead of internet bulletins in similar to referring to releases from bands as "records" or LPs' instead of CDs'. Perhaps it is only just a manner of speaking or dated colloquial.

Precisely.

Hey Chippa, did you see the talking goat video that I post under illegal immigrants? It's hilarious!!

Paul it WAS f*cking hilarious

I read a local paper out here in the sticks that doesn't have an online version because my wife advertises in it and it's local local like where the pancake breakfasts and open mikes and such are plus a lot of local history crap is in there and they do bios on the town players like teachers and cops and the like

Plus I got a chimney starter a few months ago

... and you're all fired. I'm not drinking all this coffee myself - and a frickin' shame to throw all these donuts away.

Swanee... you want some donuts...? How are you with a shovel...?

whoa - whoa... let's calm down now... no need to get all excited, I didn't mean "fired" fired... I'm just sayin'... hold on: "ERIC... ERIC! Get over here...! Eric... I need you to run out and get those bagels I asked you about this morning... go... GO!"

Heheh... no worries guys - no need to call anyone ... it's all good, right...?


RIGHT...?

C'mon guys, I need this f*cking job... goddamn ballet, soccer, braces, karate, my kids are costing me a frickin' fortune here... I am barely sneaking-by... and they don't appreciate a friggin' thing... and my wife...? Pffff... she doesn't give a crap anymore - put on 80lbs and bitches that I am not attracted to her anymore... well... sorry - but you look like Rosanne Barr after a night of binge drinking - on your GOOD days...

And the frickin' credit cards...

Guys - I need this... please get to f*cking work... otherwise, I'm driving-off the side of a bridge on the way home tonight.

I wonder if Home Depot is hiring...

Thank you - thank you... I couldn't do this without the help of so many other LowellRocks.com'ers - so many to name... uh...

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Oh, well they want me off so let me just thank...

[ music gets louder ]

Okay... well... Thanks to my loving wif....

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I love throwing hand greneggs myself.....That's sabatoogie!!

"Lee is hopping on the bandwagon to sell books."
I don't think he needs the money.

"If he was such a great leader to be giving lessons, why the hell did Chrysler need a bail out?!?!"

I'm pretty sure he wasn't there when it went south. He was brought in to bring it north.

I don't know, if he paid back the money, what's his motive? There was a lot more than just complaints on there. Read it again.

Carl, I think that the general concensus in the USA is one of hurt &/or shame. I mean, he WAS voted in (barely, I admit. Along with the help of his brother in Florida) so at one time, he was liked well enough. THEN he lied to the entire world, US specifically, and I think the entire country felt rather SHAT ON.
I believe the country in general, regrets putting the idiot into the position of "Leader of the Free World" (sorta sends a shiver up my spine EVERY TIME I THINK ABOUT IT !!!), but, I guess my point is, I think even someone as rich & powerful as Iacocca could have "Changed their minds" after the way that Bush & his cabinet have screwed the US... Agree...?? Disagree...???

you know what we need?

More corinthian leather.

I agree that drilling is not a long term solution, but the Dem's have ruled it out as a short term solution, that's my problem with them. As for the "for a smart guy" I guess I'll take that as a compliment. :-)

I also think that there is not nearly the rush that Dems make it out to be. Well, there is now since we stopped drilling for oil, and need to buy it from hostile states, but again, whose fault is that? Surely not the so-called oil men who just plain gave up on getting permission to drill because Congress wouldn't let them.

The free market responds more favorably to countries rich with product, in this case, oil. We have it, but refuse to drill or refine.

But I don't want to go around and around with you on this Dog, I read what you said in that other thread about Obama being an empty suit, so as far as I'm concerned, your politics are okay with me! Today anyway. ;-)

CM, nah, I'm not interested in a long drawn out conversation on the topic. I was mainly curious.

"As for the "for a smart guy" I guess I'll take that as a compliment."

Indeed as it was intended.

I can't get up the energy to bash either candidate.

As I'm writing this, I have the Libertarian party web site open in another tab.

Watch the movie WALL STREET.

oil prices we see to day have NOTHING to do with supply.

We aren't running out of oil in our lifetimes.

and before one of you armchair oil barrons responds, put your hand down unless you have ACTUALLY WORKED IN THE OILPATCH.

thats right.

never been to houston? hand down.

I hear Houston has one of the highest pay rates in the country-Their gonna LOVE you yankee

thats right hands down spanky.

You work in Houston?

I'm no socialist but I'll say this: The only think keeping this country—or that has kept this country—from sliding into a dust bowl-like depression (or worse) like that of the the 30s' is socialism, first introduced in this system via "New Deal" politics during FDR's administration.

Programs such as unemployment insurance, workman's compensation and Medicaid among other things are all essentially "socialist " in nature.

With the world becoming smaller and smaller and the populations of the world increasing and expanding; together with the deliberate and systematic removal of manufacturing centers to foreign countries via NAFTA, how else can we expect people to survive in the years ahead in an already overpopulated world?

i HAVE worked in houston.

I hear ya Scott.

I posted the same line on the other thread because somehow the system choked and bounced me over to it while I was writing it here. Weird.

commodities speculation.

You think the well went dry in 6 mon time?

china and india all of a sudden started usinig more out of no where?



watch WALL STREET.

same reason stocks are worth nothing one day, and alot the next. then back to nothing.

Gas was near 4.50 for a while. I filled up today, it was about 3:50.

think they just found some oil in the past 3 months? Chinamen get thier cars repoed?

THINK!

greed is good.

no the MOVIE Wall Street.

Hey, "Wag the Dog" is probably closer to real life than we think.