F*#&$%ING "Music123.com" - AAUGH!

*** JUST VENTING ***
Don't bother reading if you don't care to see me whine. :)
Okay... first of all, I stopped using Musician's Friend back when (a) they were bought by Guitar Center (whom I do not support) and (b) when they messed-up a few orders in-a-row...
So - I just got word on Monday that my new gigging kit will be in on Wednesday (today). I decided I wanted to replace my HotSpot monitor, get a couple of new multi-clamps and a new dampener for the kick.
I log-on to music123(dot)com and place an order mid-day on MONDAY and elected for OVERNIGHT delivery. Now, I know from experience that not ALL places will ship-out same-day... so I expected the it MAY get there on Tues, but Wed (today) at the latest. I called yesterday just before noon to double-check - it still hadn't gone-out, but was told it will by EOD yesterday.
Still no shipping confirmation today.
I just called. "Okay, it looks like it's going to be released today... and it..." - Wait, WHAT? What do you mean...? It hasn't shipped yet...? I placed an order with you mid-day Monday and paid $25 to make sure it got here overnight - which SHOULD have been yesterday... and now you're saying it hasn't even LEFT yet...? Are you kidding me...? What happened...?
"Well... it looks like is should ship today..." Should? SHOULD? How can I get you to assure me it WILL ship today...? - "We cannot guarantee that sir, but it probably will..."
Not only that - one of the items is now BACKORDERED and I'll only be getting a couple of the things that I needed tonight to re-configure my gigging kit with the new drums.
I convinced her to drop the shipping charges but STILL ship them "overnight" when it DOES ship. I'm not paying $25 for 3-day turnaround - screw that.
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Anyhow ... I know it's not important ... more horrible things are happening in the world... I just needed to vent. I didn't want to have to wait an additional day to get the new kit dialed-in and broken-down for this weekend's gigs. I hate cutting things close like that.
Anyhow... that's it. Nothing major.
8/20/2008 10:40:14 AM
that sucks. I hate tthat crap.
8/20/2008 10:56:14 AM
I think this happened to someone else too. The "gimmick" is that it does ship overnight........from the day they actually ship it, which isn't always the day you order it.
They love to say "..it should...". I never trust an "it should".
8/20/2008 11:17:13 AM
I karate chop people in the neck if they say that...
8/20/2008 11:34:07 AM
It should be noted that Erin will punch you in the throat if you say "...it should".
8/20/2008 6:05:19 PM
If my sh*t doesn't arrive tomorrow, I will be walking around my office randomly punching people in the throat.
8/20/2008 6:12:29 PM
but why don't you support guitar center? WTF is the difference anyway... between web stores?
everyone of them will screw up an order from time to time.
feels good to complain don't it?
8/20/2008 9:15:41 PM

Many reasons why I don't support Guitar Center.
A couple of the major ones:
- I prefer to support the smaller, local stores rather than the large, faceless chains. Some of the local shops I support are Performance Music Center in Woburn, Joe's Drums in Beverly and occasionally Daddy's.
- Guitar Center is (on a fundamental level) all-about the "now". I have known at least 5-6 people that have worked there and they confirmed it. They do not care how long you've been a customer, how much money you've spent with them or what you know... they are trained to treat EVERY customer like they just walked-in for the first time and you need to "play the game" every time to get the fair price you "should" be paying. EVERY time. No matter how many times you've been there before and even know people by-name.
- I cannot confirm if they are TRAINED to do so, but I will protest that when you CALL them to ask if they have something in-stock BEFORE you make the trek to their location... they almost ALWAYS say yes. I have learned from years of experience (and being let-down) from both the Boston and the Danvers locations... that they want you to walk into the store no matter what. They will TELL you something is in-stock without knowing if it is, just so you go there... and when you get there... they look it up... and say "Well it shows we SHOULD have some... let me go check..." They disappear and come back to say that they must be out, BUT... They can ORDER it for you if you want...!!!
Well... DUH! I can order it MYSELF online and get it cheaper - I came here in-person because you said you HAD them in stock.
If this only happened 4-5 times, I'd say it was a collection of errors, but this has happened DOZENS of times between myself and my ex-partner from a studio.
Before I stopped using them, I would make sure that they put-down the phone and physically go and CHECK in-person for the item to have them hold it for me. More-often-than-not... they'd come back and say - "I guess we're out, it says we have XX of them... I can order it for you if you want..."
No thanks.
With the smaller stores, they remember my name, they give me good deals, they have EXCELLENT customer service, they do more for you, heck... Joe at PMC has let me TAKE GEAR HOME to try out to see if I wanted to buy it. Try THAT at Guitar Center. It'll NEVER happen.
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There are a few smaller online music retailers that I use for some things... but to get what I needed, I had to go a bit bigger... and I wanted to avoid Musician's Friend because (a) Guitar Center owns them and (b) they have messed-up way too many orders of mine.
So - that's it, mostly...
8/20/2008 9:37:16 PM
I like Performance Music too. I bought a couple of my guitars there, including the Fender that later underwent a Variax transplant done by RiffDaddy. They really take the time to properly set up the guitars that they sell.
8/20/2008 10:05:00 PM
As a reseller, I feel that I have to remind everyone that the vendor really doesn't always have much control over when the product actually ships.
Please don't shit on me for saying this, it's just the plain truth. Your retailer probably truly believed that your order would go out when the manufacturer said that it would.
But... we are in the same boat as our customers as far as what the factory tells us/you. We really have NO CONTROL over when they actually ship your order. I'm here in Tewksbury and they're somewhere in California. How can I even beat on them if they don't ship your order when I want them to?
It really is tough to run a business long distance, believe me.
8/20/2008 10:12:16 PM
And, I'm probably every vendors worst nightmare as a customer.
I always follow the tracking number EVERY DAY until it shows up here. And sadly, I'm often rather remiss in sending tracking numbers to my customers. Why? because by the time I get the number and send it, they usually have already received the package.
I ALWAYS make sure that my customers receive their orders. Always. And I have lots of repeat customers (I totally LOVE repeat customers!!!)
morganhomeaccents.com Time to start thinking about the holidays...
8/20/2008 10:18:29 PM
This goes for me as a customer and Keeler Designs.
Keep people in the loop and everyone is happy.
8/21/2008 1:35:14 AM
Look - here's the deal. If you don't have it in your hand to send out yourself - don't fkn advertise that you have it to send.... especially do not offer overnight shipping. That's fkn ridiculous.
8/21/2008 7:16:52 AM

{ fist-bump to Erin }
EXACTLY. If your online store says "IN STOCK" and it's the middle of the day and you explicitly want/need overnight shipping... I think it's absolutely unacceptable for it to take 2-3 days before it leaves the building.
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I am spoiled, I have used online retailers for a LONG time... and there have been retailers (even Musician's Friend) that have made me think that they must have been waiting outside my front-door, waiting for me to click the "CONFIRM" button - and "DING-dong"... THERE IT IS!!!!
I have ordered computer parts around 7:30 pm and had them arrive at my desk at work the following morning.
I have had STANDARD shipping items from Musician's Friend (3-4 years ago) that have arrived next-day and 2nd-day - Yes, "GROUND" shipments making it in less than a day or two.
So, yeah - I'm spoiled. When I really, Really, REALLY need it overnight... I expect it to BE overnight - giving it a 1-day buffer (I thought) was fair.
I know that SOME of these online retailers warehouse stuff and others don't... I don't know "exactly" how it works, but I shouldn't HAVE to know.
Again - this isn't a world-ending crisis by ANY means... my stuff will arrive today (2-days late) and life will go on. I will just look for some other retailer to use next time. That's all.
If Joe @ PMC could GET HotSpot monitors, I'd have gone through him. But I needed to replace it (and some other things) before the weekend.
Anyhow - I've since calmed-down (seeing the tracking number and confirming it's out for delivery) and am over-it.
:)
8/21/2008 9:03:18 AM
And the moral of the story...
Support whomever can get it done and right the first time. Your loyalties should be to those who know what they are doing and charge accordingly.
8/21/2008 9:14:48 AM
"Look - here's the deal. If you don't have it in your hand to send out yourself - don't fkn advertise that you have it to send.... especially do not offer overnight shipping. That's fkn ridiculous."
I love it when she talks dirty.
8/21/2008 9:25:17 AM
I'm in my-own olympic event right now:
Men's Speed Waiting
8/21/2008 9:36:55 AM
AH! I had no idea... but after doing a search - apparently, Musician's Friend OWNS Music 123.com
GAAAHHH!!!
No WONDER...!!!!
The are (obviously) not upfront about it.
So... both Musician's Friend AND Music 123 are owned by Guitar Center. How wonderful for us consumers. *sigh*
9/4/2008 12:00:47 PM
I'd say toodles to Music123.
9/4/2008 12:10:50 PM
done & done.
9/4/2008 12:12:21 PM
I've had great luck with Sweetwater.com they are really knowledgeable and are awesome with follow up, advice, and always ship when they say they will.
Just my two cents
9/4/2008 2:54:15 PM
Sweetwater is also my #1 right now for music mail order
9/4/2008 3:17:43 PM
I have been a Sweetwater customer for YEARS - but for pro-audio only. They do not carry any drum equipment or accessories - the bulk of my reorders. Sticks, drumheads, snare wires, etc.
Anyone else's Sweetwater Rep. Brian Loney...?
:)
9/4/2008 3:27:14 PM
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