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Guitarists (or anybody) - BACKUP PLAN

riffdaddy
riffdaddy writes:
Last week we played a gig on Rye beach. Great time however it rained right at the start of our second and final set. We covered all the gear but stuff got wet. After a 20 minute delay we began playing again but my XT Live rig got wet and wouldn't work. I pulled out the Fender Frontman 25w, mic'd it up and we were able to finish up the night in grand fashion.

So the question is are you prepared when your gear goes down?
Bad tube? blown fuses? blown speaker? amp head fries? cords break? What's your backup plan?
7/29/2008 11:19:44 AM
Coven Of 13
Coven Of 13 writes:
Really really good point! I always bring a back up guitar (we all have strap locks). Bring another monster chord, picks and strings. I also bring a repair kit including glue....glue rules. Since we are and original band...we are lucky to have a 40 minute slot, As for heavy duty gear like amps, heads and the like, we don't normally bring back up. We've helped out other bands and visa versa when gear goes PMS. Unless we get big, signed and have a road crew...eh, it's not worth bringing a u-haul of back up gear.
7/29/2008 11:27:19 AM
chippa
chippa writes:
Duct tape-

that's why it's good sometimes to be on a bill with other bands

The Dodge Street Bar and Grille in Salem has enough drums in the back for at least eight drum kits- the last time we played there George went through four snares
7/29/2008 11:31:15 AM
Open Window
Open Window writes:
Riff, I'm glad things worked out for you. When things break it can be scary. I bring a tool box "full-o-crap" to every gig. It has spare batteries, patch chords, electrical outlet tester, All sorts of cable connection converters, some three prong to two prong plug adapters, pics, strings, clothes pins (for anchoring sheet music) and then I have a duffle bag full of extra cords and I bring an extra small monitor. I don't have everything as a back up but I have a lot.

Good topic
7/29/2008 11:50:37 AM
CPA
CPA writes:
How about "Don't play in the rain" ? 8')
7/29/2008 11:51:11 AM
Hundred $$ Demo
Hundred $$ Demo writes:
Backup amp in the car, always, along with spare pedals.

I don't carry them in, but can get them if something goes down.

I also carry a small modeling pedal, the Korg something or other and a behringer DI Redbox. In a pinch, I can plug into that, into the DI which has a 4x10 cab emulation and go direct to the board.
7/29/2008 11:51:11 AM
riffdaddy
riffdaddy writes:
Well we didn't plan on playing in the rain. Matter of fact we were under a deck. We tossed a tarp on the deck (KK's idea) and that kept the rain off us. We did get some wind though and it was just wet everywhere. The point is gear can go down for a number of reasons. Are you ready for it when it does or do you just tell the client your done because you blew a tube?
7/29/2008 12:31:42 PM
CPA
CPA writes:
Obviously the weather is the enemy of any outdoor gig and lately it's been pretty bad, so... I would have insisted on a tent, pavillion or coverd deck.. Having said that, I always bring an extra guitar and several cords. If I'm far from home I'll even bring a practice amp as a spare. If worse comes to worse, I could always commandeer Rob's amp to finish a gig. (thanks bud) I guess you could say my philosophy is: Don't rely on too many gadgets. If you can't make it through a gig with just a guitar -> cable -> amp, you may be asking for trouble.

Sorry to hear your pedal board got the wash.
7/29/2008 12:53:51 PM
CPA
CPA writes:
and doing repairs at a gig are the suckiest thing in the world.
It's best to have all your repairs and maintenance taken care of during the week.
7/29/2008 12:57:34 PM
CPA
CPA writes:
be prepared is right! I always try to be a good boyscout
7/29/2008 12:59:02 PM
Juice
Juice writes:
Whenever you play outdoors bring a roll of large heavy duty trash bags. You can cover your monitors or tops FOH without taking them down, amps, mics right on the stand or even guitars on their stand, stuff your pedals in, and just about anything in a pinch except a drum kit.
7/29/2008 1:14:46 PM
Morganic
Morganic writes:
I have a little Behringer V-Amp that I keep handy. In case my amp dies, I can get a passable sound through the PA with it. And I almost but not always bring a spare guitar.

There are some places where the AC power is less than it's supposed to be -- that can wreck havoc with all kinds of electronics, especially tube amps.
7/29/2008 1:20:46 PM
In My Soul
In My Soul writes:
Morganic,
Sounds familar with the little trouble at the benifit ride that sunday afternoon. You ever figure out what that was?
7/29/2008 1:24:46 PM
Morganic
Morganic writes:
Yeah, the outlet I was using was not only putting out too little voltage, but reverse wired to the other one, so we were getting lip shocks from the mics.

I kept thinking of Les Harvey from "Stone The Crows" getting electrocuted onstage in front of thousands of people back in the 70's...
7/29/2008 1:30:38 PM
riffdaddy
riffdaddy writes:
Since we do a few outdoors things I'm picking up a few painters plastic tarps for emergency coverage.

I like the comment about not relying on too many electronics. Obviously withthe XT Live I have lots of cools sounds for certain songs. When I switched to the Fender that was it. No delays, choruses, wha... The tone was great though so iI wasn't bummed and still was able to finish the gig strong. I really enjoyed that part of it!
7/29/2008 1:30:47 PM
CPA
CPA writes:
The blue tarps are really cheap and come in a bunch of sizes.
from 4x6 to 30x40 and probably bigger.
7/29/2008 1:35:53 PM
Hundred $$ Demo
Hundred $$ Demo writes:
Get one of those resealable plastic bags that is just big enough to fit your Pot or other pedal board. Put the board inside it and seal it.

Make a SMALL hole where each of the cables plug in and then seat the cables in that small hole so that they are snug and sealed.

If you do it right, the inside of the plastic should be nice and dry no matter what.

Use clear plastic tho, you want to be able to see the settings on the pedal ;-)

Don't do it if your pedalboard tends to get hot like some do.
7/29/2008 2:04:43 PM
milhouse
milhouse writes:
i dont put up with sh*t like that.

seriously. IF A FKN CLUB OWNER TRIES TO FK ME BY LETTING IT RAIN ON MY SH*T I START SH*TING IN MY HAND AND THROWING SH*T AT THE WALLS.

i am an artist fathelovagawd.
7/29/2008 11:16:59 PM
BEEF
BEEF writes:
I have been playing within emergency driving distance of my house so I only have one amp. Always have a 2nd guitar. I have a laptop bag turned tech kit.
As far as playing outside I will never do it unless there is a tent / tarp set up before I start playing. I remember a biker party I was playing. I asked where we were setting up and the guy points to the middle of his yard. As politely as possible I mentioned that we all had to much expensive gear to risk a downpour. Turns out he had a fence company and in short order he had a crew out there putting up a stage and a huge tarp. It did pour heavily as well as thunder and lightening. No casualties although I did see 10 gallons of roof rain water pour into and through G-Mans floor fan that was on and spraying water at him.
7/30/2008 7:26:42 AM
riffdaddy
riffdaddy writes:
In our case we were told we'd be under cover which we were. However decks have spaces in them so we did get some drip through until the tarp was put up there. even so the wind was blowing water at an angle and stuff still got wet. Carrying plastic coverage will help and if we ever set up under a deck a tarp in the deck is a great idea!
7/30/2008 7:33:51 AM
SKI and THE 99'ERS
well,,,,,we have our rain stories. we were playing at the naswa beach resort(laconia) on a covered stage. got caught in a monsoon during the 3rd set. i brought my plastic bags,,,but the water was pouring from the backside down a hill onto the stage. talk about freakin! everything got wet but it still works.
we did a backyard party in tyngsboro last week under a deck. million dollar home. the lemonade jug was on top of us where the food was served. didnt realize the kids just let it fly. all my electronics got sticky before i realized it. what a hassle cleaning everthing off!
i carry an extra minidisc player and a small handheld boss processor for my guitar. then i hold my breath when the rains come!
7/30/2008 5:10:10 PM
Morganic
Morganic writes:
Some of you here remember when I used to book the old Hula Lau (now BackStage Grill) from 1987-1996. The landlord there (then as now) totally refused to repair the leaky roof, so when it rained really hard we had to hang plastic under the worst leaks.

Well, one night it rained so hard that during the break (thank God) about four gallons of water burst the plastic and fell all over the drums. Imagine if that had happened while the band was on stage playing?
7/30/2008 5:50:36 PM
SKI and THE 99'ERS
yes,,wayne,,i remember when it was j. rags and i played on thurs. nites there. that glass canopy always leaked! crazy!
7/30/2008 5:53:13 PM
Stich
Stich writes:
Zoom PS02 in a Zip Lock Baggie.
8/4/2008 2:22:39 PM
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