How do you find what to write lyrics about?
I'm bopping around with these new chords and I have an idea of what I kind of what i want to write about but can't quite find it.
I'm the kind of songwriter that has quite a few musical expressions collecting dust that I every now and again resurect.
But Lyrics is something I never have stashed away. I'll often write stuff down and loose it but they are normally just bits and pieces.
So I pretty much write lyrics after the fact and of course taylor the music around it as needed.
Many times I can get ideas from watching movies but I'm aimlessly walking around with this big mental net hoping to catch something.
What do some of you guys do to help find what you might be looking for?
Read Poetry? Research other lyrisists from songs? Google awesome lyrics? :-)
7/2/2008 9:23:20 PM
I too write alot in notebooks, I've got TONS of 'em. But, I usually tailor my lyrics around the feeling I get when I hear the particular music. I do admit to using an online rhyming dictionary now and again. It's also great for getting different words with the same meaning. I'm an idiot and can't remember what the F they're called..........Anyhow, yeah. Cool topic Bruce.
7/2/2008 9:41:48 PM
I also write poetry, although I haven't in a while.
7/2/2008 9:42:24 PM
GET Drunk....feel the emotions ...think about good times , think about bad times , think about life times.
Get a a hand held recorder ...cuz when when your drunk you can't remember shit...like how to spell or write ..not that thats important. LOL
Seriously, hand held recorder...not that I'm a great lyricist
which I'm not. Even in any kind of business ....you can record and later replay the recorded ideas that may contribute to your writing. It works in sales as well.
Just a thought
Senor
7/2/2008 9:44:02 PM
LOL Senor. I just might try that. :-)
7/2/2008 10:15:23 PM
Reminds me of the movie "Almost Famous"
Phillip Seymour Hoffman's portrayal of Lester Bangs:
"I used to take codene......a little bit of cough syrup, and stay up all night and write! Like 25 pages of drivel, you know like the stages Coltrane and sh*t like that?......"
Hey, it might work.
7/3/2008 12:58:27 AM
Step away from the guitar.
Quiet your mind.
What do you want to say?
Say it.
Make it rhyme.
Put a back beat behind it.
Hear the melody that's coming into your head.
Grab the guitar. Find the chords to go with it.
Keep it simple.
Step away from the guitar again.
Listen to what is coming into your head, Connect with that. Open up to that, and it'll tell you where it wants to go.
Follow it. Stay open to what's coming in. Get it down, but don't force it.
Come back to it later. See what needs to be done. Refine it.
Could take a day. Might take years.
7/3/2008 1:25:22 AM
Oh yeah, it helps if you really mean it, but it can still be done well even if you don't.
Re-writes are cool. Try speeding up that slow song, or slowing down that fast song.
Try a whole new beat or attitude.
The good ones want to be born.
7/3/2008 1:28:52 AM
...just to finish the thoughts...
The song is not in the guitar (or any other instrument)
The song is in you (if you can learn to hear it)
The instrument or voice is only a tool for getting the song from your mind and heart, and soul, out into the real world.
But this method begins inside, not from the instrument.
7/3/2008 7:45:32 AM
I write lots of songs in my car. I keep a little note pad there and when I hear a song on the radio that I like and that I think will go over well at a show, I WRITE it down. Then I learn it and play it at my next show. I write lots of songs that way.
7/3/2008 11:58:40 AM
"But this method begins inside, not from the instrument."
Not for me Ken. I'm a learn as you go kind of guy.
Like I said earlier. Music is always first for me. I need the stimuli to start looking for something to go with it.
I've never actually sat down and wrote a song from my head. My head needs to be massaged by musical atmosphere.
7/3/2008 2:50:26 PM
So you're saying that the lyrics come out of the guitar?
The way the song is gonna go and what it;'s about, which string is that on?
Sorry Juice. The song comes from you. Not the guitar.
7/22/2008 7:51:46 PM
I simply CAN'T write lyrics!
I just plain have nothing to say.
Well, that's not quite right, but...
I simply don't know how to say in words the anguish I feel inside...
And, they absolutely HAVE to rhyme!!!!!!!!!!! NO QUESTION about that.
So, I have a big problem writing songs...
7/22/2008 8:14:34 PM
Writing music is easy. I can create a great pop song in about a minute or so, but writing lyrics...
7/22/2008 8:16:22 PM

Wow! I thought this wa a new thread and when I looked at it I realized I started it.
Anyway,
"So you're saying that the lyrics come out of the guitar?"
No. What I'm saying is that I never have a predetermined thing I want to say. Like if I was going to meet with you I would expect to talk to you about music but I would not actually have a topic that I would discuss with you before hand. In fact the interaction may never result in a conversation about music. I just would think that knowing that is what we both have in common.
When I write a song I keep my mind blank and wait to see where it wants to go when the music starts playing. I'll just be patient until something catches my atention and draws me in spontaneously.
I think of it more as a song coming through me instead of from me. What ever happens in that moment of time will direclty affect where my mind wanders to.
The guitar fills the atmoshere and sets the tone of what I may be feeling at the time. I don't conciously think of what the guitar is technically doing unless I get bored and I'm not felling any emotion from it. It's just the vehicle.
7/22/2008 8:26:34 PM

Morganic, Rome wasn't built in a day. Believe it not many songwriters who start out find very quickly that they start to repeat themselves in many ways either with phrases or musicaly and melodically. It can seem frustrating at first because you would like to think of yourself as more diverse.
But learning to use your comfort zone of who you are as an artist is a gradual thing. Not like learning 10 cover songs in one night. It's a growing process and not moving forward despite the results will only serve to shackle you.
It's not as easy as it seems but each time you push on those obsticles will seem to be less and less intimidating.
So here are some quick-tips for writing lyrics that I found:
i- Stick to topics that everyone can relate to. Songs about love work really well, because who hasn't been there? Two other topics that resonate with people: social issues and family.
ii- Unless your mission is to set poems to music, avoid trying to be overly poetic. It often comes off sounding a bit corny. Find basic ways of conveying your thoughts and feelings.
iii- Be focussed and concise with your lyrics. Find the most efficient way possible to say what you want to say. Wordy texts sound cumbersome, and distract from the flow. Remove unneccessary words.
iv- Be creative without going overboard.
v- When in doubt, use familiar, everyday language to convey your thoughts.
vi- Relate a story, not just your emotions. Don't just tell the listener how you feel - tell them a story that they can relate to. That way, there's more of a chance the listener will feel that your story is their story, and they'll create their own emotions to suit it. When that happens... you've written a killer song!
If you find that you get stuck in the lyric-phase of writing, the way out may be easier than you think. Just simplify your lyric, and you've probably gone a long way to solving the lyric-writing dilemma.
7/22/2008 8:43:20 PM
just work at it.
i have the secret to great inspirational lyrics every time with zero effort, but i ain't tellin.
so the rest of you clods will have to just put some old fashioned work into it, a la lennon & mccartny
7/22/2008 11:47:50 PM
Rawg, booze isn't a secret.
7/23/2008 8:09:10 AM
wish i had the time to do something like this. hell,,,,,i can't even maintain my gear!
7/23/2008 9:10:49 AM
VAGINA is always a good subject
7/23/2008 9:37:57 AM
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